Over 8 years of waiting for this, what a disappointment. Thrice Upon a Time feels more like a fanfic or parody than the "culmination" of Evangelion (that culmination came in 1997 with The End of Evangelion). I really thought it couldn't get any worse than the previous movie, but Thrice somehow managed it, no wonder it had a troubled production (production was a disjointed clusterfuck as seen in the documentary 'Hideaki Anno: The Final Challenge of Evangelion'). This was Anno's last opportunity to fix all the problems of the previous Rebuild films, especially after 3.0 left so many important questions unanswered. Why was the Near
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Third Impact so destructive? (at the end of 2.0 Kaworu stopped it just in time) How did Gendo and Fuyutsuki manage all NERV on their own when it seems that absolutely all the NERV staff betrayed them to form WILLE? What happened to Kaji? Why did SEELE disappear? What's the in-world explanation for the Eva's curse? Who is Mari? This movie either ignores or provides very unsatisfactory answers to these questions. Anno not only didn't fix any of the plot holes and inconsistencies, he made them worse, it's so bad it retroactively makes 3.0 even worse. Some may say "That's ok, Evangelion's focal point is its philosophical message and the characters' psyches, the post-apocalyptic narrative and robots are just dressing", that might be true but just because "the robots" end up taking a backseat to the introspection sequences doesn't mean bad writing should be given a pass (this movie fails at being a psychological exploration of its characters anyway).
Thrice runtime is 2 hours and 35 minutes long, it's the third longest animated movie ever made. Two and a half hours of bad exposition/info dumps, asspulls, contradictions, unconvincing character development, in-your-face/condescending meta-narrative and mindless CG action. The only good part of the movie is when they are in the village. This segment is the only part where the writing and character interactions felt natural (even though character development felt extremely rushed and unbelievable). It’s also visually impressive, the 2D animation, background art and cinematography really shines, unfortunately this doesn't last long and the rest of the movie mainly consists of bombastic action. It wouldn't be so bad if at least the action was good, but sadly long gone is the quality of action scenes like Asuka vs the Mass Production Evas from EoE; elegantly choreographed and accompanied with well thought out composition and camera movement, the amazing 2D animation of this scene looks just as good today as it did 24 years ago. Now we have ugly CG Evas (that already look outdated) with unnecessarily convoluted designs, stiff animation and a camera that cannot be still for a second (the constant camera spinning was absolutely nauseating). It's not just that they look bad, there's also no tension or anything at stake since Asuka and Mari can easily defeat thousands of Evas by simply shooting them with their guns (what good are their AT fields?).
The plot is very straightforward but full of unfamiliar terminology and lore exposition since the worldbuilding continues to be incredibly sparse compared to NGE. This has been a problem with the Rebuild films since 2.0 and it only got worse with each subsequent entry thanks to the timeskip. NGE had excellent lore and worldbuilding, it never gave you all the answers, but it gave you enough information to make sense of what was going on, while remaining consistent and believable whitin itself. Rebuild is a complete failure in this regard, and in Thrice everything feels more contrived, nonsensical and excessive than ever. Anyway, this movie gets so ridiculously meta none of this ends up mattering, so let's move on.
[ Beware of spoilers from now on. ]
What about the characters? They were always the strong suit of Evangelion. In NGE it took a realistically long time for Rei to behave like a human being in front of anyone that wasn't Gendo, in Thrice she's suddenly a cute baby full of curiosity, even though not long ago she was an emotionless doll, colder than ever during the events of the previous movie. Her character arc and relationship with Shinji are ruined with the awesome revelation that Rei was programmed to like Shinji à la Mikasa and is not choosing him over Gendo out of her own free will. I have to admit it was nice seeing Rei farming and hanging out with the old ladies, but this is the 2nd time we're seeing her humanization in these movies, it feels very redundant. Shinji starts out very depressed because of the death of Kaworu then Rei (after winning his affection) dies in front of him and instead of falling further into depression he suddenly becomes a stoic chad who is unfazed when someone points a gun at him. He transforms into an overly optimistic character, absolutely motivated to play the hero completely out of nowhere and of course everyone keeps telling him how much he has grown up, "Wow Shinji you have grown, you're a generic shonen protagonist now". Such is his mental fortitude and gravitas that he can talk Cyclops Gendo (a literal god and 4D chess master) into submission, not bad for someone that a few days ago suffered from severe depression and PTSD (he was borderline suicidal). Asuka continues to exist only for blatant fanservice (she spends most of her screen time half naked for no reason) and to tsunderely have a crush on Shinji, we hardly see anything from her past that makes us sympathize with her or a justification for her toxic behavior and instead we get a last minute asspull revelation: Asuka was a clone the whole time, because that's what Evangelion needed, more clones. Mari always felt like an unwanted guest on Evangelion, a Mary Sue whose dialogue consists almost entirely of one liners and only appears during combat/fanservice scenes, never having any meaningful interaction with any of the other characters. I've always hated Mari because RoE already had simplified versions of the original cast, with far fewer scenes to develop as characters than they had in NGE and she was stealing precious screen time from them. "No matter where you are, I'll come get you, Puppy Boy", yeah, yeah, shut up Anno's wife self-insert. This is the final movie and we do not see another facet of Mari or an interesting origin story relevant to the plot, no, she is still the same one-dimensional character singing and fooling around during critical moments, her existence in these movies is never justified. Worst of all, out of all the movies, this one gives her the most screen time while far better characters like Misato and Ritsuko were put aside. Yes, Misato is once again relegated to a very minor role, most of her dialogue is just poor exposition about what happened to Kaji (Gendo and Ritsuko were also reduced to exposition spouting robots).
This time around the Human Instrumentality is much more direct thanks to Gendo constantly explaining everything with unnecessary info dumps, "This is the world of your memories. Our senses can't perceive the anti-universe. Therefore the LCL has created a virtual environment we can perceive", it's all dumbed down so even the dumbest normie can understand. It's as if during the sandbox sequence from EoE there was some know-it-all character explaining the meaning behind all the symbolism and metaphors, ruining the atmosphere and leaving no place for interpretation. The Human Instrumentality should offer viewers more space for imagination and self-reflection. Fourth Impact, Another Impact, Additional Impact or whatever the fuck it's called, basically consists of bad CG, superficial visual callbacks to EoE, Gendo's backstory/introspection (admittedly this part wasn't so bad) and happy send-offs to all the main characters that felt rushed and unearned. Yeah, Shinji is such a Gary Stu now he doesn't even need psychotherapy through Instrumentality anymore, instead he is the fucking psychotherapist fixing everyone's problems. Our protagonist was reduced to a plot device.
3.0+1.0 also went way too far with its 4th wall breaking elements. Once again EoE did it so much better, it just works better when it's done subtlety (e.g., the death threats/fan mail flashed on screen at the end of the live action sequence). Shinji saying "Neon Genesis", bad CG on purpose (Unit-01 vs Unit-13 fight in Tokyo-3) and uncanny valley giant Rei were just too much, instead of leaving me in awe or perplexed I was laughing and unimmersed.
Even the message of the movie feels wrong. The message of NGE was: "You are worthy of love, especially from yourself. Social interaction can be painful but you need to connect with other people in order to be happy, don't be afraid/don't run away". The message of this movie is: "Say bye-bye to Evangelion, it's time to grow up. Stop being a loser (otaku), go outside and touch grass. Get some pussy like I (Hideaki Anno) did". It's very meta but also very condescending, hypocritical and redundant. This meta-message felt so much more sincere and empathetic the way it was delivered during the live action sequence in EoE ("You were avoiding the truth by escaping into a fictional world"), mainly because there wasn't a "gorgeous gal with big boobs" representation of Anno's wife lusting over Shinji/Anno, and because 'The END of Evangelion' was supposed to be the end of Evangelion, but no, Anno had to make 4 more multi-million dollar movies in the span of 14 years just to tell us once again to move on from Evangelion, not content with that he's also judging us as immature while simultaneously putting more butt shots in this movie than the entirety of the previous Rebuild movies and NGE combined. Meta-narrative aside Shinji literally ran away from HIS real world and all its problems, this is escapism at its worst. In both EoE and NGE Shinji rejects Instrumentality and decides to return to the real world even though that means being hurt, basically he decides to stop running away from reality and start facing it, this movie is the complete opposite. The realistically optimistic EoE: "Anywhere can be paradise as long as you have the will to live". The overly optimistic and delusional 3.0+1.0: "Erase your reality and get yourself isekai'd to a different reality". World resets are such cop-out endings, they don't belong in Evangelion, they are incompatible with its anti-escapism message. And of course Shinji ends up with Mari, even though story-wise it doesn't make sense since they hardly ever interacted with each other (plus Mari is really a 50-something year old woman making moves on a minor, that's fucked up), but that's just how it had to be because Shinji is Anno's self-insert and Mari is Anno's wife self-insert in this condescending allegory of growing up.
In the 90s Anno was struggling with depression and Evangelion was a way of therapy for him. So Eva has always been a deeply personal reflection of its creator, but its themes were universal and relatable, knowledge of Anno's personal life was never necessary to understand and appreciate NGE. Unfortunately that's not the case anymore. Shinji is suddenly a completely different person, he's full of confidence and optimism, why? Because Anno is a different person now, he's no longer in a dark state of mind. The only justification for Mari being a complete non-character is that she's a representation of Anno's wife, coming into his life to make it better. You need to know a lot about Anno's personal life to justify Shinji acting so out of character, him and Mari ending up as a couple, Mari's role, and the forced overly optimistic/happy ending (Shinji getting his choker removed is obviously a metaphor for Anno breaking free from the burden of Evangelion, specifically the burden of "Rebuilding" Eva, a burden he took upon himself when he didn't have to). Having an underlying meaning behind all the in-world nonsense doesn't make a story good, good writing does. There's only one thing worse than knowing Anno ruined RoE's narrative and characters for the sake of an extremely personal and overindulgent meta-narrative, and that's being completely in the dark about all of this, which is the case for many new fans and casual viewers, and let's not forget RoE main target was to attract those people.
On a side note this movie has one of the worst cases of unwanted fanservice during a serious moment I've ever seen, yeah I'm talking about the butt shots of Toji's sister during that dramatic scene. Evangelion has always had lots of fanservice, but unlike this movie it was always used at the right times.
TLDR: Thrice Upon a Time does not give a satisfactory answer to the many unaswered questions left by its predecessor, Anno no longer treats his audience with respect and now feels the need to explain everything with bad exposition, character development is unconvincing or lacking because most of the runtime is wasted on awful CG action scenes (those first 10 minutes in Paris were so incredibly unecessary), the meta-narrative/4th wall breaking elements felt too intrusive and the message is condescending, hypocritical and redundant.
No one ever believed that the Rebuild films could possibly leave a legacy comparable to that of NGE and EoE, but I think I speak for many Eva fans when I say that we didn't think Anno would disappoint us so badly either. In its advertising this film has been announced as "The end of Evangelion" ("Bye-bye, all of Evangelion"), but for me this is only the end of Rebuild of Evangelion. I don't care about endless cycles, time loops and multiverses, for me the real end of Evangelion happened in 1997 and that's the way it should have stayed.
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Synonyms: Evangelion: 4.0, Rebuild of Evangelion, Shin Evangelion Gekijouban:||, Rebuild of Evangelion: Final
Japanese: シン・エヴァンゲリオン劇場版:||
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Over 8 years of waiting for this, what a disappointment. Thrice Upon a Time feels more like a fanfic or parody than the "culmination" of Evangelion (that culmination came in 1997 with The End of Evangelion). I really thought it couldn't get any worse than the previous movie, but Thrice somehow managed it, no wonder it had a troubled production (production was a disjointed clusterfuck as seen in the documentary 'Hideaki Anno: The Final Challenge of Evangelion'). This was Anno's last opportunity to fix all the problems of the previous Rebuild films, especially after 3.0 left so many important questions unanswered. Why was the Near
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Aug 13, 2021
World-building (and World-Destroying) of Evangelion - 1.01+2.22+3.333+(3.0+1.01): This is the Suspension, Beyond Belief
Warning: Spoilers Compared to 3.0, which was notoriously reticent to explain the whys and hows of its newfangled setting, Thrice is dedicated to filling in old underlines. But the delay has colored the viewing experience a shade, making it hard not to feel palpable elation or dread as minute one begins, having over the years remained in suspense to find out what it was we watched a decade ago--no one could say if 3.0 (and Rebuild as a whole) checked out or not, even if they felt more or less sure about their ... Aug 14, 2021
------SPOILERS FOR EVA 3+9+10+11+12-42+1.01 AHEAD------
I have consumed at least some of nearly every non-game Evangelion property, and I can confidently say that this is the singular worst property. Yes, worse than Rebuild 3.0. Yes, worse that ANIMA. YES worse than Campus Apocalypse. The sheer audacity of this movie; to spit in the face of the audience, insult their intelligence, ignore the lore & continuity of the previous movies and series, and produce a mediocre product created for absolutely no worthwhile reason. Let's go in order here. First up, Story: I give this a 1. The first ~50 minutes of this movie are really quite well done. Art is ... Aug 23, 2021
Could content made by the original creator still be classified as fan fiction? Well, technically no, but leave it to Hideaki Anno to make the impossible, possible.
The Evangelion Rebuild films aren't so much about telling their own story or introducing new audiences to the world of Anno's Evangelion as it is about Evangelion itself. Not Evangelion the original series and film mind you, but what it's come to represent in the collective minds of all those who've ran away with romantic notions of its placement as a bedrock of their youth. If there's anything "existential" here it's in a generation's obsession with iconography, the hive-minded ... Aug 13, 2021
I know this is not the best score to give to such a praised piece of art, but here I am, telling you all just how I feel, and how the Rebuilds achieved Hideaki Anno's dream of turning Evangelion into just another generic mecha series.
We need to begin from Neon Genesis Evangelion. An absolute masterpiece. Its animation style might be old, but it achieves to show SO MUCH in a spectacular way. It deals with profound topics and themes, like loneliness, depression and trauma in a fascinating world with the main idea of anti-escapism. And Hideaki called it a generic Mecha show. It's an exploration of the mind, ... Feb 11, 2023
Hideaki Anno has completely ruined Neon Genesis Evangelion by utterly disregarding the fans hopes and expectations. It was such a long journey from the first movie in 2007 to this final movie in 2021 just to metaphorically slap all the fans in the face by this disaster of a film. The worst thing about this movie is the message they're sending out to every single fan of anime and that is "to grow up and move on with our lives." and specifically, moving on from anime and becoming a productive member of society. I vehemently despise that message. You never have to grow up if
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Feb 5, 2022
This is currently rated higher than the original end of evangellion. If you ever wanted more proof the average MAL user has brain worms.
The rebuilds were built out of pure hatred Anno has for his audience. Imagine making an anime that is explicitly about how shit anime is. Every character in Eva is a direct refutation of all the shit tropes. Asuke is the red haired Tsundere. But in Eva it asks the question of how a person could become so unable to genuinley express themselves, it shows the pain and horror of being unable to show affection. Rei is the Kuudere and in ... Aug 15, 2021
Bloody hell this movie was bad. I didn't go in expecting a masterpiece, but I was hoping for something at least interesting, not just End Of Evangelion again but this time worse in every aspect. If you haven't seen the original you might find something novel here which is about the best I can say.
For starters there's the CG, the thought here seemingly being that if they use enough of it so blatantly it'll somehow come back around to being good, it doesn't. This is most notable in the climatic battle which looks like a PS2 cutscene, buildings get kicked around like happy meal toys. ... Sep 26, 2022
Anno should be ashamed of himself. It took 9 years to make this and this is what we got? He even sidestepped along the way to make Shin Godzilla and Shin Ultraman but didn't have time to spare for Eva during all those years.
Unlike what diehard defenders of this movie likes to think, none of the plot points were planned ahead. In fact it was the polar opposite of careful planning. The original trailer for 2.0 included Asuka's fight against Zeruel like in NGE which was changed later in 1.11's release. Mari mentions dragging adults into her business in the beginning scenes of 2.0 but ... Sep 6, 2021
Evangelion 3.0+1.0 (Eva 4) is the epitome of disappointment. To be honest, I’m not even sure why I watched it, I knew all I would get out of it was going to be anger. Eva 4 is empty, baseless, dry, and fruitless. It is exactly what anyone would expect after watching the first three movies.
I was trying to have low expectations when it came to Eva 4, but somehow I was still able to be disappointed. I think a small part of me was hoping that Eva 4 would offer some sort of redemption for the movie series and that was enough for Eva ... Aug 23, 2021
The Rebuilds were conceptualized as an improvement over the original Evangelion, but now that this series has reached its end I can say that it has not surpassed the 90s version. This is the major offendant to me: Anno hasn't delivered a better message nor a better execution yet presents these movies as a rebuilt, improved Eva.
Some say that comparing 4.0 with EoE is unfair since Anno portrays the two stories from a fundamentally different lens, but when the author himself paints Shin Eva as an improved version of the original product, it's just natural for comparisons to arise. EoE ends with Shinji deciding he ... Jul 27, 2022
Neon Genesis Evangelion 3.0 + 1.0: Thrice Upon a Time let me down once again like the previous 3.0 movie. Too many expository moments which weighed me down. I had to watch this movie in 2 days cuz i couldnt go chug it down at once. Apart from the stellar 2d animation, (3d animation simply sucked and fucking ruined the movie), this whole movie is a giant pretentious mess. Alot of new ideas are poured in this mf that i stopped giving a shit and was waiting for this movie to be done with it and this whole fucking bs movie series they call rebuilds.
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Oct 12, 2022
Evangelion: 3.0+1.0, an unearned, incoherent, and unexplained mess.
As a pretext, I thought the first two rebuild movies were great. Super amped up animation, great song selections, and a much needed improvement on some of the flaws of the original series. One in particular I loved is how they made the three main characters more enjoyable. Asuka was less of a total psycho, Shinji wasnt just crying all the time, and Rei was becoming human. It truly felt like Anno was taking the criticisms found on the original series and improving on them to make the story a lot more solid for the Rebuild movies. ... Dec 31, 2021
Other reviewers have done an excellent job of dissecting the hot, stinking, horrible balloon of vomit that this movie is. They've touched upon all aspects of the plot, characters, and more; so I won't repeat that.
Instead, I'm going to bitch about Hideaki Anno, how I've lost my immense respect for the man, and why I've decided that I won't fuel his career any more. I'll always love the original Evangelion and End of Eva, but I'm through purchasing merch from the series. I also won't be watching any new projects from Khara or Anno; in my head canon, he retired in 2009, and never vomited ... Aug 19, 2021
It's hard to believe just how much more attuned Anno and the crew were to what people and critic considered unique, quality work, back in the 1990's in comparison to 2021. How could Anno's perception of the ideal ending for his own story change so drastically 20 years after The End of Evangelion? 3.0 + 1.0 is the exact opposite of what End of Eva was, it's a broken movie. It crams together two separate stories with basically no correlation and introduces concepts like "anti-universe" and "imaginary EVA" with a straight face.
Before the first of these two stories kicks in, we are presented with ... Sep 3, 2021
Eva 3.0 + 1.0 is insane... and not in a complimentary way...
Eva 3.0 + 1.0 is the culmination of every mistake the rebuilds and original series have made except cranking each error to a new absurd height with the final instalment in the series. Its current MAL score is a complete joke and at this point it’s fair to say that Anno could have taken a terrible fan parody written by a fourteen year old, given it a 2 and a half hour run time and slapped a multi-million pound budget on top and it would still have received high praise from the community - ... Oct 27, 2022
As someone who has not watched the original anime series, I forced myself to watch through all four movies in the series hoping that plot would start to make more sense the more I continued watching, while reassuring that myself that there has to be something redeeming about the movies with how much praise it seems to get. Now that I finished, I can confidently say that I still have no clue what's going on.
I really have no clue about the motives on any of the characters or the reasoning for any of the events that occurred throughout the show. It was never explained why ... Sep 20, 2021
That this film is at it's most interesting only when it's paraleling the original Neon Genesis Evangelion and The End of Evangelion tells all you need to know about the rebuilds.
For all it's worth, Hideaki Anno's seemingly well intentioned attempt at telling Evangelion's story one more time is, unfortunately, unneeded. both the 1995 TV series and The End of Evangelion needed not a continuation: they already carried, in their own flawed ways, a larger than life feeling within their own conclusions. It doesn't matter that the story was inconclusive since it ended up being about much more than just Evangelion, the anime. The rebuilds, albeit sharing ... Aug 16, 2021
Unlike many fans, I've always thought the story of Evangelion to be mediocre. An interesting premise, stellar animation, and cool design are what made the property enjoyable for me. Most of that is gone now; replaced with meaningless character interactions, unimpressively bland 3D models, and nauseating camera spinning.
I don't feel like talking about the movie beyond this point. I had been anticipating this film for years, and the first hour had me very excited, but by the end I only felt disappointment mixed in with a bit of leftover nausea. I'm happy that there are fans that enjoyed this film, but I did not. Aug 22, 2021
End of Eva left me numb because of the emotional ride I went on, and the expectation of a happier ending. but I was satisfied. was then, and still am today. it's a 10/10 masterpiece in my books
Rebuild of Evangelion: 3.0+1.0 left me a different kind of numb. EoE left me with a tired kind of numbness, and it was blissful. like a tiresome adventure coming to an end, and plopping down on your bed and falling asleep. 3+1 left me cockblocked-numb. what made me tired with 3+1 was the slow realization that my excitement was unfounded. I gradually just became more and more disappointed ... |